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ufo/aliens #188, from Cix_UseNet, 4688 chars, May 28 05:58 91
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TITLE: Re: >>I want to contact some real-live extra-terrestrials!

+From         : [e-mail] (David Jones)
+Subject      : Re: >>I want to contact some real-live extra-terrestrials!

--->>> Re: [e-mail] (harold.r.holm)

>>> Would a trip to just North West of Las Vegas near Area-51 or S-4 count
>>> on the strange ship part?  I know that doesn't speak for who is in control
>>> of a specific ship, but it might still be fun?  Go to the Dulce area for
>>> catching some other(dangerous?) action?

>Are these some sort of military area designations?  Are they near air-
>bases ("secret", or otherwise)?  Exactly how far from Las Vegas are
>they?  Near some town(s) or junction(s)?  How does one get there by
>auto?  Are these also (military) restricted areas (i.e., if you're
>found where you're not supposed to be, you are either escorted out
>or detained at gunpoint)??  What sort of 'dangerous' action is referred
>to here---reported abductions?  Shot at or harrassed by the locals/
>authorities/military?  Better to go at night or during the day (or
>not at all)??  Any local "guides" or contacts in these areas?
>

If you get a map of Nevada look for Nellis Air Force Base you will notice
that it covers a wide area, and is north of Las Vegas.  At the
top of Nellis is an area called Groom Lake.  At Groom Lake is
a very highly classified military area called Area 51.  In order to
get to Area 51, you would usually need a classification of Majestic
(MAJ are the last three letters of the badge code, unless you are a
supervisor, then MAJESTIC is spelled out).  Typically, you would meet at a
bus stop, be ferried to a plane, and flown in.  They use both voice and
eye prints to check to make sure that you area who you are supposed to be.
Nobody gets in by road.  West of Area 51 is an
area named S-4.  Nellis Air Force base is where the F117 "stealth"
aircraft (which was used so successfully in the Gulf War) was developed
and tested. (Actually, all of the stealth stuff was done at Nellis.)  It
is here (at Area 51) that the physicist named Robert
Lazar (he got his job by asking Edward Teller to work at Area 51) saw
9 extraterrestrial craft. He worked on them. He saw them tested and worked
on a craft that had the capability to distort time (a time machine of some sort).
All this is documented.  The Las Vegas TV 8 station had several programs on it.
It was hushed up nationally.  It's a very long story, but all this
is common knowledge (I'm not giving away any secrets here).  John Lear
is involved.  I spoke with several people that go there on Wednesday evenings,
about 7:30pm (in the winter months) and watch the U. S. government testing alien
spacecraft (there are videos).  There are many, many stories that I could
tell, but my fingers are getting tired.  You go up hiway 395 and then
there is a turnoff to another road and a mailbox, ... my notes are at home, ...
Rachel, Nevada has a restaurant named "Ale Inn".  They would have all the
latest information.

--->>> And :[e-mail] (Don Allen)
>
>I would NOT advise going to the Dulce area. You may never come back. I
>am not at  liberty to go into this more, but don't even THINK about it.
>There are "things" there that are best left alone.
>If you are CAUGHT near the underground base, you *may* end up being
>one of the "experiments".

I have heard horrendous stories.  It could be true and/or a fear
tactic by our U.S. government to discourage "sight seers".  I spoke with
a TV producer that rented a helicopter and flew all over the Dulce hills
looking for something (I have seen the video).  All he found were white
numbers on the top of mountains, numbers
that looked exactly like the kind that the Marines used to mark the top of
hills with in `Nam.  So, if nothing else, it appeared to be a military training
ground, even though the entire area is an American Indian reservation and
the Indians do not take kindly to any kind of government involvement.

>The ZETA GREYS don't fuck around and if you think I'm jesting then you
>had better start reading up on all the cattle mutilations and human
>abductions going on.

I have, (I've chatted recently with Linda Moulten-Howe and Bud Hopkins)
and it's true.  Is there any hope?

>You also might want to read Zecharia Sitchin's book "The 12th Planet"
>and Genesis 6 in the Old Testament, The Book of Enoch and all the
>extant books by Budd Hopkins. Pick up "Intruders", written by him
>and "Confrontations" written by Jacques Vallee.
>You will have a much clearer picture then.

Sweet dreams.
(Which reminds me, some people have called the underground shelters with
the alien craft in them at Area 51 "dreamland".)



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ufo/aliens #188, from Cix_UseNet, 4688 chars, May 28 05:58 91
--------------------------
TITLE: Re: >>I want to contact some real-live extra-terrestrials!

+From         : [e-mail] (David Jones)
+Subject      : Re: >>I want to contact some real-live extra-terrestrials!

--->>> Re: [e-mail] (harold.r.holm)

>>> Would a trip to just North West of Las Vegas near Area-51 or S-4 count
>>> on the strange ship part?  I know that doesn't speak for who is in control
>>> of a specific ship, but it might still be fun?  Go to the Dulce area for
>>> catching some other(dangerous?) action?

>Are these some sort of military area designations?  Are they near air-
>bases ("secret", or otherwise)?  Exactly how far from Las Vegas are
>they?  Near some town(s) or junction(s)?  How does one get there by
>auto?  Are these also (military) restricted areas (i.e., if you're
>found where you're not supposed to be, you are either escorted out
>or detained at gunpoint)??  What sort of 'dangerous' action is referred
>to here---reported abductions?  Shot at or harrassed by the locals/
>authorities/military?  Better to go at night or during the day (or
>not at all)??  Any local "guides" or contacts in these areas?
>

If you get a map of Nevada look for Nellis Air Force Base you will notice
that it covers a wide area, and is north of Las Vegas.  At the
top of Nellis is an area called Groom Lake.  At Groom Lake is
a very highly classified military area called Area 51.  In order to
get to Area 51, you would usually need a classification of Majestic
(MAJ are the last three letters of the badge code, unless you are a
supervisor, then MAJESTIC is spelled out).  Typically, you would meet at a
bus stop, be ferried to a plane, and flown in.  They use both voice and
eye prints to check to make sure that you area who you are supposed to be.
Nobody gets in by road.  West of Area 51 is an
area named S-4.  Nellis Air Force base is where the F117 "stealth"
aircraft (which was used so successfully in the Gulf War) was developed
and tested. (Actually, all of the stealth stuff was done at Nellis.)  It
is here (at Area 51) that the physicist named Robert
Lazar (he got his job by asking Edward Teller to work at Area 51) saw
9 extraterrestrial craft. He worked on them. He saw them tested and worked
on a craft that had the capability to distort time (a time machine of some sort).
All this is documented.  The Las Vegas TV 8 station had several programs on it.
It was hushed up nationally.  It's a very long story, but all this
is common knowledge (I'm not giving away any secrets here).  John Lear
is involved.  I spoke with several people that go there on Wednesday evenings,
about 7:30pm (in the winter months) and watch the U. S. government testing alien
spacecraft (there are videos).  There are many, many stories that I could
tell, but my fingers are getting tired.  You go up hiway 395 and then
there is a turnoff to another road and a mailbox, ... my notes are at home, ...
Rachel, Nevada has a restaurant named "Ale Inn".  They would have all the
latest information.

--->>> And :[e-mail] (Don Allen)
>
>I would NOT advise going to the Dulce area. You may never come back. I
>am not at  liberty to go into this more, but don't even THINK about it.
>There are "things" there that are best left alone.
>If you are CAUGHT near the underground base, you *may* end up being
>one of the "experiments".

I have heard horrendous stories.  It could be true and/or a fear
tactic by our U.S. government to discourage "sight seers".  I spoke with
a TV producer that rented a helicopter and flew all over the Dulce hills
looking for something (I have seen the video).  All he found were white
numbers on the top of mountains, numbers
that looked exactly like the kind that the Marines used to mark the top of
hills with in `Nam.  So, if nothing else, it appeared to be a military training
ground, even though the entire area is an American Indian reservation and
the Indians do not take kindly to any kind of government involvement.

>The ZETA GREYS don't fuck around and if you think I'm jesting then you
>had better start reading up on all the cattle mutilations and human
>abductions going on.

I have, (I've chatted recently with Linda Moulten-Howe and Bud Hopkins)
and it's true.  Is there any hope?

>You also might want to read Zecharia Sitchin's book "The 12th Planet"
>and Genesis 6 in the Old Testament, The Book of Enoch and all the
>extant books by Budd Hopkins. Pick up "Intruders", written by him
>and "Confrontations" written by Jacques Vallee.
>You will have a much clearer picture then.

Sweet dreams.
(Which reminds me, some people have called the underground shelters with
the alien craft in them at Area 51 "dreamland".)



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ufo/aliens #190, from Cix_UseNet, 2694 chars, May 28 05:10 91
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TITLE: Encounters of the 5th kind.

+From         : [e-mail] (David Jones)
+Subject      : Encounters of the 5th kind.

>>
>>Just a note.  There is a new category of encounters that serious UFOligists
>>are beginning to use.  A close encounter of the 5th kind is currently
>>considered "Human Initiated Contact."  Where ``Human'' is defined as
>>"Earth Human".

-->>>  Response to: [e-mail]
>
>                        Please explain further!?

Please see below.

-->>>  And: [e-mail] (Steve Gamble x3293)
>
> I thought there was a body called the International Committee for UFO
> Research set up by Allen Hynek and representatives from a number of
> national UFO organizations (including MUFON, BUFORA, CUFOS) to set
> about defining standard terminology. I was not aware they had defined
> a new classification.

This was true up until recently. A few weeks ago, I attended the UFO Expo
West in L.A.  I spoke with Bud Hopkins, Linda Moulten-Howe, Bill Cooper
and a many others that are active in UFO research (I guess that I should
mention John Lear).  Since there has been such an incredible increase in
alien activity regarding abductions, the obvious U. S. government involvement
and the increase in cattle mutilations (we're talking epidemic
proportions here), that somewhere along the line, one of these illustrious
people decided that we (meaning serious investigators) had better start taking
responsibility for ourselves (meaning earth humans),
(since our Majestic government is unwilling or unable to do anything about
what is going on), and create a new category.  I've only heard about it's
existence for less than a year, but, it seems like a good idea.

-->>>  And: Daniel Mutch
>
> An encounter of a fifth kind is when say I request physically or
> mentally for an alien visitation. In a form of communication.

True.  But only if you actually get contacted!  Whatever works.  Telepathy
is second only to dumb luck (or is it divine planning or a cosmic
coincidence?)  Some suggest that there is something in the DNA of
special earth humans that attracts certain groups of aliens.
Anyway, my suggestion is that you be careful.  All those creatures out
there are NOT friendly.  If you don't believe me, try talking to any one of
the thousands of abductees (I've only chatted with a few score).

Billy Meier always got a cold feeling on his forehead (third eye region)
before his telepathic communications with the Pleiadeans.  Others get a ringing
in their ears or a pressure at the base of the skull.  Usually, its' just
(just?) a voice in the head. (I wonder, is this the same as clairaudience?
No, I guess not.)

Happy attunements!



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ufo/aliens #191, from Cix_UseNet, 2263 chars, May 28 22:27 91
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TITLE: Re: Skeptic's Re: INFO:FOIA files on UFO's

+From         : [e-mail] (Don Allen)
+Subject      : Re: Skeptic's Re: INFO:FOIA files on UFO's

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Roadster Racewerks) writes:

>
>
>I figure if this stuff is genuine, we'll hear of it soon enough... :-)
>
>Suze

I suggest that you go to your local library and check out a few books
and do some actual reading on the subject. I think you would be MOST
enlightened by even a cursory look through.

In case you missed it...about 2 weeks ago CBS aired a show on a Friday
night at 8:00 on UFO Abductions. It focused on just *3* cases out of
the already few *thousands* known to investigators.

Also, in case you missed it, last night on Monday night's "Hard Copy"
was a piece done on Dr Marina Popovich, a former officer in the Russian
Air Force and Cosmonaut in the Russian Space Program who told of a
mysterious dis-appeaance of one of two probes sent to sent back data
on Mars. I believe this happenned in 1988-89. The probe sent back it's
LAST picture of a shadow being cast against Phobos, that was calculated
at 25 kilometeres long and 3 kilometeres wide in the shape of a cigar,
before the probe went.....poof! and I mean as in GONE!

This was discussed according to her contacts in the Russian military
with Gorby and Bush at the 1990 Malta summit.

It is preeminently EASY to flame or dismiss UFO's...it is much harder
to accept the FACT that they are HERE and we are finding out that not
only ARE they here, but their inhabitants are not some fluffy bunch
of benovolent space beings who are here to save the world. Quite
the opposite is the case. Locate a book written by Jacques Vallee
entitled, "Confrontations".

The deeper that investigations are allowed to proceed, the more
outright *disturbing* facts about the GREYS/REPTOIDS are being
revealed. Keep your mind open and do some basic reading.

Regards,
Don


k
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ufo/aliens #192, from Cix_UseNet, 3399 chars, May 28 22:47 91
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TITLE: Re: German UFO Documentary

+From         : [e-mail] (Don Allen)
+Subject      : Re: German UFO Documentary

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David Jones) writes:
>
>On Wednesday, May 22nd, the television program Entertainment
>Tonight showed excerpts from an upcoming German documentary
>on UFOs.  Entertainment Tonight showed, for the first time
>ever, a photograph of one of the dead extraterrestrials that
>were recovered in the Roswell, New Mexico, crash of 1947.  This
>photo is part of the German documentary.  They also showed one
>of the silver cigar-shaped crafts that has been seen recently all
>over Europe.  The commentary was in English.
>
>Unfortunately, ET did not say when, or where, this documentary
>would be aired. If you know when/where this will be aired, I would
>greatly appreciate it if you please be kind enough to let me know.
>
>And for those of you that missed it:  The alien had very tiny ears,
>a very small to a non-existent nose, was bald (no hair) and had, what
>appeared to be, very large eyes.  The eyes were closed (he? was
>dead remember).  It also appeared that the skin had been artificially
>colored orange
>and that some kind of (earth) clothes had been put on him/her
>(probably not to offend the puritans).  This appeared to be of the
>gray variety with children's clothes and lots of makeup.  Is it
>genuine?  Well, let's wait for the documentary before jumping to
>conclusions.
>-----------------
>  David Jones
>  [e-mail]
>-----------------

They are called "Greys"...they are MUCH talked about on the UFO echoes
on ParaNet,BAMA,MUFONET,UFINET and Fido.UFO, available on most BBS's
that carry them in the listings.

These are said to be the "bad" aliens that allegedly made deals with
the US Military and could possibly be the "Watchers" or "fallen angels"
mentioned in the Old Testament and The Book of Enoch. These types have
atropied digestive systems and take nourishment in through the skin
and pass excrement through the skin as well. They have NO sexual organs,
and come in sizes ranging from 1 1/2 feet tall all the way up to 8 feet
tall. They do not possess emotions like what we would call as such. They
regard humans with disdain and view us as "lab rats". They are primarily
the ones responsible for abductions of people, "programming" them
with bb-sized implants behind the eyes, or in the back of the nose of
the abducted humans.

Their "masters" are the Reptoid type DRACO race, said to be enroute
inside a huge planetoid and the Greys will most likely have a WAR
when they arrive on the earth with them.

Contrast these heinous alien types with the blondes of the Pleiadian
race. The Pleadians are more close to us in appearance and are probably
the forerunner of the human race, genetically, and the references to
"angels" in the Bible are most likely appropriate to their race.

There is, in fact, a REAL war going on between the races of the
Nephilim (greys,fallen angels) and the beings of LIGHT from the
Pleiadian and Sirius. Consult the book of Revelation in the Bible.

Regards,
Don


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Illuminati < MJ-12|Grudge|TLC|CFR|FED|EEC|Bush > WAR = "New World Order"



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ufo/aliens #197, from Cix_UseNet, 27496 chars, May 30 02:08 91
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TITLE: INFO: Paranormal activity and UFO's - Bill English

+From         : [e-mail] (Don Allen)
+Subject      : INFO: Paranormal activity and UFO's - Bill English


 This information is presented for your persusal and is a continuation
of my policy of informing the public what is currently available. As
usual my *disclaimer* is simply to present the data and let you form
your own opinion(s). Please feel free to agree,disagree,discuss or
ponder :-)

As I do not have a great amount of time available to pursue follow-ups
exclusively, comments to me should be sent via mail.

------Begin Included Text---------------------------------------------


                  PARANORMAL ACTIVITY AND IT'S
          RELATIONSHIP TO THE UFO ABDUCTION PHENOMENON
                               BY
                       William S. English
               UFINET News and Information Service

INTRODUCTION:

     For many years, UFOs, or Unidentified Flying Objects and
their research have been classed among the fringe elements of our
society. Looked upon as being somewhat of a cult and most
certainly inhabited by screwballs and nut-cases.
     Those who have had Abduction experiences suffer trauma not
only from the experience, which in many cases is not remembered
on a conscious level, but also from the trauma of being ridiculed
by their peers.
     To often, the circumstances surrounding a legitimate
Abduction case are clouded with extraneous issues that seem to
complicate the initial issue of abduction by a possible Alien
life form. Additionally the very nature of those issues often
cloud the judgement of even the most experienced investigator of
the UFO Phenomenon. This is due largely in part because of the
Investigator's desire to find empirical evidence to support the
existence of UFOs.
     As a result of this, over the past twenty years the majority
of UFO Investigators have totally ignored another, and perhaps
most important aspect of UFOlogy. The possible connection of
Paranormal experiences to UFO abductions.
     Over the years we have equated Paranormal Activities, such
as channeling, psycho-kinetics, manifestations of odd noises,
telepathy, and a host of other things associated with it, as
being totally separate from UFO Investigations. However a recent
review of files and information for the past twenty years has
shown a possible connection between the two.
     Most notably this connection seems to be associated with the
Abduction Phenomenon as shown by Doctor Leo Sprinkle in his work
as early as 1963.

     In an article written by Dr. Sprinkle which appeared in
"Psychotherapy in Private Practice" Vol.6(3) 1988, he had this to
say;
     ".......in our contemporary society, those persons who
describe paranormal/psychic/spiritual crises, or emotional trauma
from memories of possible past lives, often are faced with
scoffing or skeptical reactions -- not only from their friends
and relatives, but sometimes from professional persons, including
psychotherapists.
     And, if a person describes a UFO experience (including
abduction by alien beings, out of body experience, near death
experience, bodily marks from a medical examination, genital
examination, past life memories, planetary visions, automatic
writing or telepathic communication, and a message or mission for
Humankind, etc.), then the psychological resistance of the
psychotherapist, as well as the emotional trauma of the person,
can be an important factor -- not only in the process of
psychotherapy, but in the questions of whether services are
provided to that person!
     The complex and controversial claims of UFO
abductees/contactees are a background for the general question:
Based on the processes of psychotherapy, what do we know about
UFO experiences?"

     In a recent conversation with Dr.Sprinkle I asked him if
paranormal activity was common among those people who may have
had possible contact with UFOs, and if so why hadn't we heard
more about this..?

     Dr. Sprinkle's reply was surprising as he went on to say,
"Yes, it is extremely common. In fact I have been researching the
Paranormal question since 1963 and was asked by the Lorenzens
(Jim and Coral Lorenzen of APRO) to write a chapter for a book
they were writing in the mid 70's that dealt with this very
issue."

     Interestingly enough, Dr. Sprinkle, for many years seemed to
be the only professional Psychologist who even adhered to the
idea that UFOs were possibly real. Having established a
reputation in his field for his regressive hypnosis sessions with
several of the more modern day abduction reports Dr. Sprinkle has
become the foremost authority on the subject of Abductions.

     In the same article he went on to express several tentative
viewpoints:

     1.) I believe that `flying saucers' (UFOs) exist.

     2.) I believe that I cannot prove to anyone that UFOs exist.

     3.) I believe that UFO research is always frustrating, often
     fearful, sometimes fun.

     4.) I believe that psychotherapeutic services and social
     support for UFO Experiencers are helpful to them in
     accepting the reality of these experiences and in
     understanding of the silliness and the significance of these
     experiences.

     5.) I believe that there are many skills that can be useful
     to the psychotherapist who works with UFO Experiencers, but
     the main attributes are courage, curiosity, and compassion.

     6.) I appreciate the willingness of UFO Experiencers to
     share their information, and the willingness of professional
     colleagues to assist UFO Experiencers.

     Perhaps, someday, UFO research can lead to results which
     could test the hypothesis that UFO activity is an
     educational program.
     This last remark seemed somewhat new age'ish on the Good
Doctor's part, but in light of the recent revelation of a few
years ago that he himself had apparently been abducted as a
child, it is understandable.

PART TWO


     In some cases we as investigators have to ask the question
concerning the types of encounters that many abductees
experience. In so doing the questions will elicit some type of
answer or reaction. Bearing in mind it is often difficult for the
investigator, or for that matter, the psychotherapist to either
understand or accept the answers they are given.
     This comes not from a desire to deny the subject's
experiences, but more form the point of view, that it is
difficult for the Investigator/Psychotherapist to accept the
answer. In many cases the subject will present an answer
unacceptable to the Investigator/Psychotherapist. This seems to
be the case with regard to paranormal activity which may
accompany such an encounter.
     Throughout the several years Dr. Sprinkle has devoted his
efforts to finding the answers to this phenomenon, he has put
forth the following hypothesis:

Thesis 1.
     There is sufficient evidence to accept the hypothesis that
many UFO witnesses have experienced encounters with space craft
that are piloted or controlled by intelligent alien beings (e.g.,
Hynek, 1972;Jacobs, 1975; Randles, 1983; Rutledge, 1981; Smith,
1987).

Thesis 2.
     There is sufficient evidence to accept the hypothesis that
many UFO witnesses have experienced abductions and examination by
UFO occupants, including bodily, psychological, and/or sexual
examinations (e.g., Fowler, 1979, 1982; Fuller, 1966; Hopkins,
1981, 1987; Lorenzen & Lorenzen, 1967, 1976, 1977; Sprinkle,
1979, 1981; Strieber, 1987).

Thesis 3.
     There is sufficient evidence to accept the hypothesis that
most UFO witnesses are normal in their psychological functioning
(e.g., Bloecher, Clamar, & Hopkins, 1985; Keul & Phillips, 1986;
Parnell, 1987; Schwarz, 1983; Sprinkle, 1976b, 1979a).

Thesis 4.
     There is sufficient evidence to accept the hypothesis the
psychic phenomena, including "channeled" communications, are
associated with UFO encounters; further, there is emerging
evidence that UFO contactees view themselves as changing from
"planetary persons" to "cosmic citizens" (e.g., Davis, 1985;
Kannenberg, 1982, 1986; Kinder, 1987; Montgomery, 1985; Puharich,
1974; Sprinkle, 1981; Steiger & Steiger, 1981).
     Remembering the previously mentioned hypothesis, let us
review certain facts;

     "In a majority of cases the contactees/victims are initially
unaware of their contact experience on a conscious level. They
have subliminated their experiences to a subconscious level."

     We know this is possible due to findings from victims of
childhood sexual assaults and in many cases rape victims, and in
some cases, victims of violent crime or accidents. As an act of
mental self-defense, the incident or incidents are forcefully
forgotten, either through external influences (i.e., programming
on the part of the abductors) or through the psychological
processes that come into play to create a mental feeling of
security.

     "Awareness of the contact experience can, and often times
remains dormant until such time as an incident/phase/word or
experience triggers the memory, and starts the process of
bringing the memory to the conscious level."

     At this point we now begin to see the manifestation of
paranormal activity. In many cases the contactee/victim begins to
feel a feeling of un-rightness, i.e., unexplainable fear,
paranoia, panic attacks etc. . .. In other cases the paranormal
activity will manifest itself in other ways, such as;

Psycho-kinetic Activity (Poltergeist)

Manifestation of visual phenomena (Green fireballs, visions of
ghost, physical assaults upon the victim or members of the
victims household.)

The hearing of ghostly high pitched voices, screaming warnings
that only the victim can hear.

Telepathy and premonitions.

     At the same time we must enquire as to the validity of these
manifestations. A case in point...

     A college educated male, approximately 30 years of age
recalled a series of paranormal incidents that began at the age
of twenty years and resulted ultimately in the discovery that he
was in fact an abductee at the age of four years.

     ".....I was twenty. I was living in Jamestown, California at
the time with three other young people in an old house outside of
town. One night I returned to my bedroom after getting up to use
the bathroom. I turned off the light, got in my bed and laid on
my left side. As soon as I laid down I "knew" there was something
in the room with me. I could "feel" it thinking. I immediately
became aware of something moving to me from across the room and
it stood on the foam pad  right in front of my face and made a
depression there that my hands, which were up by my face started
to roll into. Then suddenly there was a weight on top of my body
that pushed me down through the support of my pad into the floor
and held me there paralysed. There also was a load sound in my
upturned right ear which sounded as though something were yelling
or shouting or exhaling right against my ear. It was one long
sound though there was no variation in timbre, frequency, or
pitch and it continued for the entire time that I could not
move."
      He went on to say that he slept for a year or two
afterwards with a light on in his room or shining into his room
from another room.

     He continued. "....a few days before I moved out of that
place in fear of whatever it was that happened, I was watching
T.V. in the living room in broad daylight when I felt as if
something were touching the insides of my thighs, like there was
something invisible trying to push them apart. I now do not
believe that there was actually something there at the moment,
but that it was a strong subliminal memory of having been touched
there. Also when I was moving back down to college I had a
similar sensation across my upper abdomen while I was driving a
car. That wasn't the end of my experiences. It followed me to
where I moved and ten months later I had a UFO sighting over
Modesto, California at very close range. Which by the way I
didn't associate with my prior experiences. There was also a
vivid "dream"  I had where something had gone into my
consciousness, made me feel euphoric, and made my life pass
before my eyes while they re-experienced it with me as if they
were looking for something (This was also associated with a
sighting in the dream) They also did something to the back of my
head. The memory of these things persisted in bothering me for
years. At the time I moved away from the rural areas thinking
that these things would stop. I didn't know what was happening to
me. I began having panic attacks after the one experience in
Jamestown and I had never had them before. All of this was quite
unsettling and I couldn't figure out why when I was having one of
the best times of my life that something so strange would start
plaguing me."

     The incidents that happened to this subject are most
certainly of a paranormal nature, and fall classically into that
category. However, let us examine several possibilities we as UFO
investigators seem to overlook.

     As of yet, science has not been able to adequately explain
the cause of Paranormal activity. Science has defined paranormal
activity as something laying outside of the realm of the normal
acceptable standards that have been established for human
behavior. Yet at the same time they are just now, within the last
one hundred years, beginning to define that human behavior and
the accompanying dysfunctions inherent in it.
     For the most part, the activity that seems to accompany a
Contactee/victim is of a paranormal nature as clearly defined by
Dr. Sprinkle in his fourth hypothesis, However in recent years it
has also become apparent the term paranormal activity, can
encompass several other things as well as the afore mentioned
items.

     Let us as investigators, for the moment ignore the
paranormal aspects of such encounters and look at other possible
explanations using the above example.

     Several years after the paranormal experiences related
above, the subject was hypnotically regressed by Kathy
McCampbell, daughter of Mr. James McCampbell, and it was
discovered that as a child of four years of age he in fact was
abducted. The following is his recollection of the abduction
experience.

     "I was with the group of girls (his mother was a Girl Scout
Leader) and then I remember being away from them, then I became
very dizzy, I remember being carried then seeing something come
down from above the tree line. I was handed up into something (it
was on the ground) it looked round and silver kind of like a
diving bell and was not that large. I opened my eyes, there were
three of them on either side of me looking down at me. The next I
know is that I'm sitting up but I am leaning against one of them
who is at my side. He is holding something on top and at the back
of my head."

     As it can be seen, there seems to be a similarity between
the abduction encounter and the paranormal incidents previously
related.
     Examining it more closely, the initial paranormal incident
where the subject felt the presence of something in the room and
then felt the pressure on top of him and the loud noise in his
ear has at least one explanation, that being that the subject for
some reason had a subconscious memory triggered and then relived
a portion of the initial abduction experience. The reliving of
the experience seemed so real at the time it is difficult if not
impossible for the subject to separate the reality from the
illusion. Therefore the subject believes that the paranormal
incident did in fact take place. Further evidence of this is
during the second paranormal encounter the subject felt something
touching the inside of his thighs, and then during the third
incident, something touching his upper torso. During the
following two incidents however, he admitted to having more of a
feeling that it was a memory rather than a real experience. Like
so many other victims of sexual assault and violent crime, he
began to remember the incidents in a way that would allow his
mental well being to stay intact, while at the same time
gradually learning to cope with the incident.
     This is a rather simplistic explanation, however it does not
answer all of the questions that arise when dealing with
paranormal activity, and it most certainly does not answer the
questions concerning the validity of such activity.

     It is at this point that we as investigators and members of
the psychological and mental health professions begin to enter
into extremely dangerous territory. `Is paranormal activity
real?'
     There is evidence to indicate that some paranormal activity
is real. Such things as ghost, poltergeist etc. . .. As for the
other things that seem to be more commonly associated with UFO
encounters, it is difficult to say on a more logical level.
In most cases the evidence seems to be self perpetuating in that
over the years unrelated cases have been investigated that show
striking similarities. These similarities are easily explained by
some, yet there is always the hidden fact that is kept hidden by
most good investigators in order that they may have a control
factor in which to gauge the validity of other cases.
     In short, this is an area and a decision which lays entirely
in the hands of the psychotherapist and the UFOlogist. It is
their own personal beliefs which must decide whether or not they
believe in the paranormal aspects involved with this phenomenon.




































PART THREE

     Assuming for the moment paranormal activity is in fact real
in some form or another, let us examine further it's relationship
with the UFO/Abductee/Contactee Phenomena.

     In most cases paranormal activity and abilities are existent
to some degree in all of us. Whether it be the ability to look
briefly into the future (DejaVu), to detect the loss of a loved
one before being told, telepathy (such as in twins), psycho-
kinesis, etc. . .. However, these abilities lay dormant until
something, either an event or a memory, triggers the ability. In
many cases this particular event is the result of a trauma, or
for that matter, the incident that is triggered was a trauma in
itself.
     One particular point that we must remember is the human mind
and brain is the most complex and even today unknown aspect of
the Human-being. We can chart the Brain, and even have a fair
idea as to what each particular area within the brain will
control. But! We are unable to delve deeper into it to look at
the area most commonly referred to as the soul. That part which
makes up our personalities, our abilities to think and discern
information. Control emotions, or for that matter, what creates
those emotions which separate us from the lower orders of the
animal kingdom. In short, we don't fully know what exactly the
abilities are within the human animal.
     An interesting point which should be considered is, most
biologist will tell you the brain capacity of the lower orders of
the animal kingdom reflect the full mental ability of those
animals,  barring mental retardation or defects. Yet a human
brain, followed by the dolphin, is one of the largest, if not the
largest brain within the mammalian chain. And we do not use it to
it's fullest capacity. This is odd since development on an
evolutionary scale theoretically says all life forms physically
develop to their fullest capabilities. If this holds true, then
why hasn't humankind? Or is there the possibility that we did,
and then through some cataclysmic occurrences we lost those
abilities..?
     Having set the stage somewhat, and seeing that the human
brain or the human animal is capable of far more than many of us
give credit to it, lets us now examine closely the relationship
between Paranormal Activity and UFO contacts.

     Accepting the possibilities previously stated, we as human-
beings have created in our minds and in our a world a certain
amount of stability based upon what we consider to be
incontrovertible facts. But I now ask the question; "What if
those facts we have established are found to be falsehoods?" This
creates an interesting dilemma....How would we cope with such a
revelation? I present the following theory for your
consideration...



Theorem....

     Throughout the span of recorded history, the human animal
has given basic and simple explanations to those things we are
incapable of understanding. We have placed these strange
occurrences into categories we are comfortable with. Such things
as Religion to explain celestial beings (angels), and beings
horrible and evil (demons). Those things defying our ability to
explain technologically or logically became things of magic and
Witchcraft. As humankind progressed through the sciences and
technology, what was once within the realm of religion and magic
went into the realm of science and logic, and this is where our
development stands.
     Suddenly there comes into our existence something which
cannot be placed within the normal classifications we have
established for ourselves. Since we no longer for the most part
believe in magic, we attempt to place it within the realm of
science. Yet when we are unable to give logical explanations
through science, it then falls within the realm of magic, or the
paranormal, which falls outside of both magic and the sciences.
It is at this point the primal instincts of the human animal come
into play, and at the same time something even more astounding.
The human brain's ability to protect itself from something that
does not compute or work within it's ability to assimilate.
Unlike a computer however, it reprograms itself to continue
functioning on a relatively normal level until such time as more
information becomes available to help it assimilate the
previously blanked out data. At this point some unusual
occurrences take place causing the brain to trigger the
previously blanked memories and bringing them forward from the
sub-conscious into the conscious area of the mind, or Id. With
this occurrence comes increased metal activity that creates an
increase in Neuro-electrical activity within the brain itself,
thereby increasing the brain's natural abilities to manipulate
it's physical surrounding without physical intervention..

     This theorem may not be as far fetched as it may sound. We
know that bio-electrical activity is one of the motivating
factors which makes the human body animate, function, and live.
We also know for example that in the event of injury to either
the brain or the Neuro-systems (nervous system) certain parts of
the human body cease to function.
     Taking it a step further, we currently are able to
manipulate invisible electrical forces in the form of Radio and
television waves, which transmit pictures, turn motors, and make
possible such innovations as the modern home computer. Therefore
the idea of the human brain creating such amounts of electrical
activity as to be able to control and effect it's surrounding
environment is not far fetched at all.

     Now you ask the question; "What has this to do with UFO
Abductees/Contactees?



     Simply put, we must first consider two possibilities. The
first being we have accepted that UFOs and Aliens do exist, and
therefore based upon the available evidence human-beings are
being contacted and/or being forcefully abducted for whatever
purposes.
     Because of the trauma caused these Abductees/Contactees
their brains have shut down in order to be able to assimilate the
data necessary to cope with this incident in their lives. In many
cases these incidents are on-going occurrences which would
require some sort of mental manipulation on the part of the
abductors to keep control of their subject. Because of the
ingrained human survival instinct the human brain begins to
increase it's bio-electrical activity thereby causing paranormal
activity in it's surrounding vicinity. whether it manifest itself
as uncommonly clear memories that cause the abductee/contactee to
relive the physical sensations that they were subjected to during
the course of their abduction, or other physical manipulations in
their surroundings i.e..poltergeist, telepathy, psycho-kinesis..
     The second possibility we must consider is the physical
modification or manipulation of the human brain on the part of
the abductors i.e..implants, bio-genetic engineering or
modifications etc..We know that it is possible to control the
human mind or at least certain areas of the brain that will cause
pleasure and pain, anger and apathy. Therefore why is it not
possible for a possibly more advance culture to have carried this
further and be able to control all aspects of the brain? Making
possible such things as channeling (communications) and all of
the previously mentioned paranormal phenomena.

     A recent review of case studies that date back as far as the
late to middle fifties has shown that in almost all instances
where a person reports abduction or contact in some form or
another there is almost always paranormal activity reported.
     Currently there are certain individuals within the
UFO/paranormal fields who have shown and uncanny ability to
predict where and when a UFO sighting or flap is about to occur.
Increased E.S.P abilities, etc...In almost all cases it has been
shown that they are abductees or contactees..

CONCLUSIONS

     Contrary to popular belief, it is apparent that Paranormal
Activity and UFO related Activity are NOT separate issues, but
rather, are one in the same. Both being an integral part of the
other, and both playing a significant role in the lives of the
Abductees/Contactees.

     It is apparent that we as Investigators and Psychotherapist
can no longer ignore the fact that Paranormal activity does occur
in some form or another in relationship to the
UFO/Abduction/Contact Phenomena.


     We as Investigators and Psychotherapeutic professionals must
come together to establish criteria in which to investigate and
treat Abduction/Contact trauma victims, bearing in mind that
these people require a different type of treatment and inter-
action between the investigator, psychotherapist, and mental
health professional.

     The psychotherapeutic profession must help establish the
acceptance within the mental health professions that there is
indeed a whole phenomena in existence that does in fact deal with
UFO contact and abduction, and that new methods are required to
treat and deal with these unfortunates. Most importantly they
must also be taught to accept the fact that whenever a victim of
such occurrences comes to them for professional help, they are
NOT crazy, but in fact show be in the same classification as that
of sexual abuse, and violent crime victims.

     We as Investigators must educate ourselves for a better
understanding of the trauma that victims of Abduction undergo,
and become aware of the various aspects of Paranormal activity
that in fact do exist..


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                    A VOICE IN THE WILDERNESS

     Recently,  Jacques  Vallee  has  been  making  more   public
appearances following a hiatus which took him out of the American
ufological  scene  for  nearly ten years.  His  reasons  for  the
absence  were  directly tied to the disgust he  felt  toward  the
methodology  employed  by UFO researchers and  investigators.   A
very  controversial figure, Vallee is highly regarded within  the
French and European community, where it appears progress is being
made  due to a diverse attitude among our European  counterparts.
One  has  to agree that things are a sad state of  affairs  right
here  at  home.  Virtually no progress is being made  as  we  are
actually further from an answer than we were ten years ago.  This
can  be credited to the lack of a focused,  scientific  approach,
coupled  with a move away from critical thinking so necessary  to
begin to understand the complexities that this enigma presents.

     Vallee has published two books of late - Confrontations  and
Dimensions,  which detail the fruits of his  research,  conducted
quietly  and  away from the public scene.   Vallee's  message  is
clear - The UFO phenomenon represents a clear and present danger.
His  research indicates that we may be dealing with an  extremely
complex  set  of models that demand scientific discipline  and  a
whole  new approach to the problem.  Vallee is  highly  concerned
with the public's seeming "blind faith" acceptance of the  "space
brothers"   scenario,   considering  that   there   are   serious
actions  on the part of the phenomenon to do harm to  individuals
ithout  any  consideration  for our comfort  or  feelings.   The
problem  is agitated further by unqualified personnel  performing
hypnotic regression which seems to cement the contact to fit  the
hypnotists  idea  of  what  happened,  instead  of  what   really
happened.  This, as Vallee says, attempts to force the event into
the  victim's reality, when it really doesn't  belong.   Although
Vallee  has drawn a lot of fire from noted abduction  researchers
such  as  Budd  Hopkins,  his ideas are  not  far  from  accepted
scientific  methodology.  Hypnosis is not for the unqualified  to
be  performing.   It  belongs  with  credible,  degreed   medical
personnel  who know the intricacies involved with the  procedure.
More  harm  is being done to the alleged victim  than  good  when
unqualified  people perform the regression.  The victim is  often
left with the trauma of the contact, and cannot effectively  deal
with  it.   It must be treated as a medical problem.   As  Vallee
states about unqualified hypnotists dealing with victims:  "It is
unprofessional  and unethical."  With this he sharply  criticizes
Dr.  Edith Fiore, who took a course on hypnosis during a  weekend
and began to regress abductees the following Monday morning.
     The question comes down to:  Are we interested in getting to
the  bottom  of this problem, or are we more concerned  with  the
sensational  aspect of it?  If the answer is the former, than  we
must begin to police our own backyard and change the direction of
things.    The  data  pool  is  so  polluted  and  corrupt   with
information  that has been arrived at with  faulty  investigative
methods,  that we are drawing false conclusions about  what  UFOs
really represent.  We must have an open mind.  But, we also  must
employ  a  methodology  that is akin  to  forensic  investigative
methods.  In this respect, we will make substantial progress, and
with  the  data  that is collected in this fashion,  be  able  to
construct theoretical models which hold some hope for the answer.
     ParaNet  has  reprinted the entire  interview  with  Jacques
Vallee.  We invite your discussion and comments.
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AN INTERVIEW WITH JACQUES VALLEE

BY George W. Earley
     In   1980,  Jacques  Vallee  "disappeared"  from   organized
ufology.  The  author  of  several  ground-breaking  (and   often
controversial) UFO books, a one-time associate of (and  co-author
with) the late Dr. J. Allen Hynek, vanished almost as quickly and
quietly as a UFO itself.
     Almost a decade would pass before Vallee reappeared; when he
did, he aroused even more controversy than he had in the 1970s.

     Vallee's  reappearance  was signaled by publication  of  two
books:  Dimensions  (Ballantine; 1989) sought to  show  that  the
phenomenon  we  call UFOs has been with  humanity  throughout-and
likely   even   before  recorded  history.   His   second   book,
Confrontations   (Ballantine;  1990),  chastised  ufologists   as
scientifically  inept  investigators, detailed the  in-depth  and
hands  on investigations (many of them done outside the U.S.)  he
undertook during the 1980s, and expressed his strong belief  that
UFOs  and  their  allegedly  attendant  beings  were  likely  not
extraterrestrial, but interdimensional forms.
     I caught up with him in Portand, Oregon, several months ago,
and between his early morning appearance on a local TV show and a
press  conference,  the  following  tape  recorded   conversation
ensued.
     Earley:  I  saw  the  program on TV  this  morning  and  you
mentioned  the  Costa  Rica photograph. I looked at  the  one  in
Confrontations  and  the  analysis  of  it  and  it  still  seems
inconclusive. What do you feel we need to have for a photo to  be
thoroughly acceptable not only to the scientific community but to
the media and the public?
     Vallee:  Well, in this case we are taking the analysis  step
by  step.  We are purposely very careful, not making  any  claims
that we can't prove as we go along.
     The  first  thing  that  was done was to  work  from  a  2nd
generation  negative  that I brought back from Costa  Rica.  Dick
Haines1  and  I published an initial article in  the  Journal  of
Scientific  Exploration.2  When  that article  was  refereed  and
reviewed,  a couple of referees raised questions about  what  the
image  could be and what artifacts could have caused it.  Now  we
have the original negative which I have succeeded in getting  out
of Costa Rica. As you know, it is a photograph taken by a mapping
aircraft  of the government of Costa Rica and it belongs  to  the
government.  What I have now is the original uncut negative,  the
frame  that  shows  the object, the frame before  and  the  frame
after,  taken  at  20 second intervals. We  have  looked  at  it,
magnified  it,  printed it with different densities, and  so  on.
That  eliminates  all the claims of possible artifacts.  We  know
this  is  not  a  double exposure, we know this  is  not  a  fine
particle  trapped  in the film...this is a real image.  It  is  a
large  image.  The  next step is to digitize it-we  do  not  have
access  to  such a place here [in America] but I know  people  in
France  who can do it, with superb facilities for computer  photo
analysis.  We are waiting for them to digitize the frames and  to
do enhancement and comparisons of one frame to the next.
     Earley:  I'll be interested in hearing the results of  their
work.   Now,  during your TV appearance today,  just  before  and
after  each  commercial  break, the station used  some  of  those
controversial saucer photos taken in Switzerland by Edward Meier.
Has  anyone  analyzed them?  I know there have been a  couple  of
books  about  him but I don't believe his claims have  ever  been
seriously examined.
     Vallee:  In the case of Meier, the negatives have never been
available,  to my knowledge.  Without the negatives, one  can  do
nothing.   So it goes back to a question of belief.  I  am  very,
very  skeptical  of the Meier case.  I've been to  his  place  in
Switzerland.   Nobody  can  tell  me this  is  an  average  Swiss
farmer...[chuckles]...the  man has led an  extremely  interesting
life.   The  photographs themselves are not convincing.   No  one
will  be  able  to  tell for sure until  we  can  work  from  the
negatives  and  the  negatives have never  been  available.   And
there's  no  good reason for withholding them.   In  a  situation
where someone has had a genuine experience, there should be  full
disclosure.  There is no reason to hide anything.
     Earley:   I agree.  I would also note that the space  beings
he says he's meeting with are more like those described by George
Adamski in the 1950s than the beings that are reported today.   I
don't  know how you feel about this but it raises a warning  flag
for me.
     Vallee:   Yes.   And  the place...I was  there  last  summer
[1989].  The place is run like a cult.  Visitors are screened  by
members  of  his  group.  He is not at  all  living  in  poverty,
getting up at sunup to work in the fields.  He has a large house,
with  the flag of his organization in front of it, a  guest  book
which has been signed by every TV station in Japan which has come
through  there.  There is a satellite antenna to pick up  foreign
television  broadcasts...this  is an organized cult.  It  is  not
just the average farmer who has happened to see UFOs.

                           GULF BREEZE

     Earley:   Very interesting.  Have you talked with Dr.  Bruce
Maccabee about the Gulf Breeze case?
     Vallee:   Yes  I have.  And I respect Dr. Maccabee,  he's  a
good  scientist.   I've looked at the photographs, spent  two  to
three  hours with him in Washington.  I should qualify this --  I
don't like to talk about cases I have not investigated myself.  I
have  not  gone  to Gulf Breeze purposely, I  am  not  trying  to
investigate  it.   As you know from my book, I  put  the  highest
priority on cases that have not been reported and cases that  are
not  big media cases with fanfare...those are the cases  where  I
can  achieve  something within my limitations, where  I  can  get
somewhere.   I like the cases that have been very quiet or  where
interest  has disappeared over the years.  Then I can go  to  the
site  and meet the people and be seriously involved and  this  is
certainly not the case in Gulf Breeze.
     Now  on  the technical questions I have about  Gulf  Breeze,
I've never gotten an answer.
     One  question  is:   Why don't we have  a  spectrum  of  the
illumination?  The object appeared again and again and again;  it
appeared  often enough that the witness could be supplied with  a
camera that had four different lenses on it.  Well, it would be a
simple   thing  to  sacrifice  one  of  the  lenses  and  put   a
[diffraction] grating in front of the objective [lens] and get  a
spectrum  and then we would know once and for all if it's a  good
old  200-watt Sylvania light bulb in there or if it is  something
unknown  to  physics.   At least we would know  that.   From  the
photographs you can't tell.
     Another thing that is very, very disturbing is that, as  you
know,  the witness, Ed Walters, has a (criminal)  record.   Well,
that  is neither here nor there -- people with records  see  UFOs
just  like  people  with  no records.   But  that  does  have  an
influence on the way one would analyze a sighting.  And the  fact
that  he has a record is not disclosed in the book.  And I  think
that's wrong!  I feel there should be full disclosure.
     Earley:   There was a vague mention of an "indiscretion"  or
something like that.  I would note that in a recent issue of  Jim
Moseley's Saucer Smear newsletter 3, Walters writes that  because
of  "my  reputation as a responsible business man  and  community
leader"  he has been granted "a Full Pardon" by Florida  Governor
Bob Martinez.  Of course that doesn't take away the guilt of what
he  did...I know Phil Klass loves to get into things  like  that.
He  pointed  out that Travis Walton had also  been  charged  with
forgery...

     Vallee:   I  think that's relevant and it should  always  be
disclosed.   There should be no question in disclosing  it.   The
fact that in this case there is no full disclosure, that the book
represented him as a pillar of the community, I find that wrong.
     Earley:   I  think  the  pardon  came  after  the  book  was
published. Perhaps it will be put in the 2nd edition...
     I'd like to talk about witness harassment and ridicule.  You
mentioned this topic in your book; I believe in one instance  you
wrote of "vandalism."  Was this to a victim's home or car?
     Vallee:   If  you remember, there were  several  cases  like
this.   There was a policeman in the Midwest,  Herbert  Schirmer,
who suffered from harassment.  Even in the case of Lonnie Zamora,
he  was  harassed and had to leave the  police  department.   The
kids, when he tried to arrest them in Socorro [New Mexico], would
say  "Why  are  you after me?  Look at that  flying  saucer  over
there.  It's going faster than I am.  Why don't you arrest it and
leave me alone?"  And in the famous case in Michigan, the  "swamp
gas"  case, the witness's house was pelted with beer bottles  and
Coke  bottles and cans...jsut the reaction of the friendly  local
community.
     Earley:  And the police chief in Alabama I think it was, who
took the picture of an alleged entity...Greehaw, was it?  I think
he  resigned  because of the hassles he had.  Have  any  of  your
fellow  scientists done any sociological studies as to why  there
should be this reaction to UFO reports?
     Vallee:   Not  any  formal studies.  It is  a  normal  human
reaction  in  a way; there is a reaction of laughter  to  relieve
tension  and  the fear of the unknown.  It's nice to be  able  to
laugh at it and it makes you look smart.  It is a normal reaction
by people who don't want to be bothered by such things.  I  don't
know  what it will take for people to grow up and recognize  this
phenomenon as something very important.  I hope that my book will
be a contribution in that direction.  Among my colleagues it  has
started  to  have  that  effect.  After  reading  the  book  they
understand that this is obviously not just a bunch of  uneducated
people  in  the  countryside sitting by the  river  and  watching
flying saucers come by...
     Earley:   So  you're getting a positive reaction  from  your
colleagues in the United States as well as in France?
     Vallee:  Absolutely.

                       COSMIC IMPLICATIONS

     Earley:   That's encouraging.  Because what it gets down  to
is how do we develop a proof that will allow people to take  this
seriously...why  are people ignoring the, shall we say,  "cosmic"
implications of the UFO phenomenon?
     Vallee:   Well, you know, the people who are  interested  in
the   UFO   phenomenon...we've  been  guilty   of   pushing   the
extraterrestrial theory to the exclusion of everything else.  The
word  from many people in the public and also in  the  scientific
community  is -- either UFOs don't exist and it is all  illusions
and mistakes and hoaxes and so forth, or we are being visited  by
beings from outer space.  It seems to be either one or the other.
     Well,  it doesn't have to be one or the other.  What I  find
is that people start paying attention when you tell them "Hey, of
course  it could be aliens or a form of intelligence  from  outer
space,  but  it could be other things too!"  Then they  start  to
want  to  know  more, they start thinking...before  they  had  to
decide  between not believing the witnesses or agreeing  that  we
were being visited by aliens.  People have reacted negatively  to
that narrow choice.  Scientists have certainly reacted negatively
to it.  They say "Oh yeah?  If they are space aliens, how and why
do  they  come here?"  I had that reaction yesterday at  a  radio
station  in Seattle.  "Why do they do these absurd things  people
say they do?  Why do they look like us?"
     We have to deal with the fact that while this phenomenon  is
very   complex,   it  does  not  have  to   be   extraterrestrial
necessarily.   That  opens  up many  other  hypotheses  including
interdimensionality, which is now mainstream physics.  There  are
theories about the universe having more than four dimensions, and
to me the UFO phenomenon is interesting to the extent that it  is
forcing  us to ask those questions and to test some of those  new
and  exciting  theories.  When you say  that,  scientists  become
interested  once again because it means that the UFO  problem  is
not a closed system anymore.
     What has surprised me is that when you start proposing  such
ideas,  the  people  who react the most negatively,  not  to  say
venomously,  are  not  the skeptics but the  people  in  the  UFO
community  themselves.   I have been astonished by  this  violent
reaction  and you may have seen the comments of Budd Hopkins  and
of  Jerry  Clark4  calling  me  a  flake  for  opening  up  these
possibilities.
     I've argued before, as you know, with Donald Menzel and I've
argued  with  Philip  Klass,  yet  I've  never  experienced  such
polemics.   Mind  you,  I  don't  mind  the  polemics.   I'm  not
particularly looking for it, but if it happens, it happens.   Yet
I've never encountered the kind of vitriolic reaction I have with
Jerry Clark, which was totally uncalled for.  It just came out of
nowhere  as  far as I'm concerned.  That taught me  an  important
lesson,  though,  that  I'd not  realized  before:   parochialism
within the UFO community itself may be what is preventing us from
being heard by the scientific world.
     Earley:   I  think that could be a possibility.  The  "house
divided" effect...
     Vallee:   Jerome  Clark  is  reacting almost  as  if  I  had
questioned something very sacred for him, something that must not
be questioned by someone who calls himself a UFO researcher.  I'm
questioning  the  dogma that these beings are  ETs...yet  when  I
listen  to  the witnesses, which is what I try to  do  carefully,
they  tell  me  they see objects appearing out  of  nowhere,  and
disappearing on the spot.  They don't necessarily see things that
take off and go up in the sky and go through the atmosphere.   In
some cases they do, but in many cases they describe objects  that
seem to have the ability to operate on space-time, to  manipulate
space-time.  Well, if there is a form of consciousness that  does
that,  if there is a technology that does that, then it opens  up
all  kinds  of  questions that we have  never  really  considered
seriously.   And from a scientific point of view, number one,  it
makes  a lot more sense.  Number two, it is much richer in  terms
of what we can do with it in our own research.

     Earley:   It  is,  of course, a regrettable  fact  that  the
scientific  community,  by  and  large,  has  rejected  the   UFO
phenomenon out of hand without making any real study of it.  I've
talked  to Isaac Asimov.  He speaks of "UFO maniacs" in a  recent
book5  on  the NASA/SETI program, yet he knows nothing  of  UFOs.
When  you  try  to pin him down about his  skepticism,  he  says:
"Well,  I've  devoted enough of my time to this and I  have  many
other  things  to do."  Carl Sagan does the same thing.   A  very
personable  man  but  very glib and  shallow  in  some  respects,
particularly with regard to the UFO phenomenon.
     Vallee:   They've  never  taken  time  to  study  the  cases
themselves.   All  they know about it is what they  read  in  the
National Enquirer...
     Earley:   Are  you saying that to a large degree  you  wrote
Confrontations  for the scientific community and that  while  you
are  hoping  it  will  have an impact on  the  public  at  large,
basically you were trying to speak to your colleagues?
     Vallee:   I'm trying to show that, number one, the  data  is
robust enough that it can be studied scientifically.  There is no
lack  of  parameters that are quantifiable, there is no  lack  of
data  from  technically  trained observers.   Number  two,  I  am
showing   that   the  phenomenon  also  has   important   medical
implications, physiological implications that should be  studied.
A lot of attention has recently been placed -- and rightly so  --
on  the  abduction  phenomenon.  That is  fine,  but  beyond  the
abduction phenomena there are other types of impacts that  should
be  documented  and  studied:   that  includes  the  medical  and
physiological impact and I'm trying to call attention to that.

                     ABDUCTIONS AND HYPNOSIS

     Earley:   You  mentioned  Hopkins'  disagreement  with  your
theory  as to the possible origin of the aliens -- do  you  still
feel the abduction phenomenon is a real one?
     Vallee:   I've never said otherwise.  People have  tried  to
imply  that I was rejecting the abduction phenomena and  I  never
have.   As  you know, both in this book (Confrontations)  and  in
Dimensions,  I even talk about abduction cases I've studied.   In
Confrontations  you will find the case of the woman I call  "Mrs.
Victor" and several other cases.
     In  Happy  Camp  (California), for  example,  there  was  an
abduction  case, among many other things.  In some cases  I  have
studied  those  incidents  whit the help of  hypnotists.   But  I
surely would not do the hypnosis myself as some abductionists so.
As I have said before, and I will say it at every occasion,  this
is   unethical  and  unscientific.   What  they  (the   abduction
hypnotists)  are  getting  is not the truth.   They  are  wrongly
assuming that they are looking at the first level interpretations
of  what  the  witnesses  have encountered.   In  many  of  those
hypnosis sessions you will find that leading questions are  being
used.   Besides, there is obvious screening or self-selection  on
the part of the people who come forward to be hypnotized.   There
is a framework that is put on the experience itself.
     The tragedy is that once that kind of framework has been put
on  the  experience, you cannot go back.  I've had  a  number  of
people who have been studied and hypnotized, people who have been
mentioned  in some of the more prominent books on abduction,  who
have come to me saying "my experience was much wider than what is
described in the book.  The author took things out of context  to
fit them in his book, but I need help to deal with other  aspects
of my experience that nobody wanted to look at."
     I'm  not in a position to help these people because  they've
already  been hypnotized a number of times, they are stuck  in  a
certain framework -- I don't know of any way one can go back  and
rehypnotize these people to get back to the original  experience.
Which is why in many cases a...psychiatrist using hypnosis in his
work  will tell you that you have to be very careful and that  in
many cases hypnosis is not even the proper form of investigation.
     Earley:   That's  why I was frankly appalled  at  Dr.  Edith
Fiore's book6 because she "learned" hypnosis over one weekend and
then began using it the following Monday.  And now she thinks she
is an abductee after having been hypnotized by Dr. James  Harder.
I  understand  Dr. Rima Laibow is saying she's an  abductee.   It
seems to me there is a lot of self-contamination and pollution in
this business.
     But  let's take a scenario here.  Suppose I came to you  and
said  I've been having disturbing dreams and I've read things  in
newspapers  and  magazines  about  abductions;  maybe  I've  been
abducted; you're the first person I've come to about this.   What
would your step-by-step procedure be with a person who approached
you in that manner?
     Vallee:  I think witnesses should only go to trained people.
Hypnosis is a complex and dangerous thing; people should only  go
to clinical psychologists or M.D.s for that kind of work.   There
is an objection to that, which I have heard from Jerome Clark and
other  people in the UFO field, saying that many witnesses  don't
have access to such experts, so Budd Hopkins and Dave Jacobs  and
others  are  performing  a  valuable  service  when  they  do  it
themselves  because  the  medical professionals  are  not  always
available to do it.
     Well,  it's  obviously a flawed argument.   It's  like  your
coming  to me and saying "I need a triple [heart] bypass.   Would
you  please take your kitchen knife and do it because  my  doctor
doesn't  want to do it?"  Well, I'm not qualified to do a  triple
bypass  and  I'm not qualified to hypnotize anybody and  I'm  not
going  to learn the technique so I can start  hypnotizing  people
left   and  right.   Again,  I  think  this  is   unethical   and
unscientific  and  it doesn't get us to the kind of UFO  data  we
need.
     In  the  cases when this situation has happened,  what  I've
done  is to go to professionals I know.  I would not discuss  the
case with a witness.  I would say, "Look, we are going to get  to
know  each other.  You are going to tell me about  yourself,  but
let's  not  talk about UFOs.  Please don't read any more  on  the
subject  for a few weeks until we can get you to see someone  who
is trained in hypnosis."  In one case I went to a friend of  mine
who  is  a  clinical psychologist and he said,  "You  won't  need
hypnosis with this person, there are other ways -- there are much
more  sophisticated  techniques that can be used to  help  people
remember what happened to them, under their own control."

     In  certain  cases, a "day dreaming" type of  technique  can
help  the  person remember things at his or her own  pace.   This
could   also   come  through  dreams,  it  could   come   through
drawings...it  could take a long time, like months.  But this  is
much more intrusive than saying  "You-Are-Now-Under-My-Power-and-
You-Will-Remember-the-Time-When-the-Aliens-Took-You..." which  is
very often what you hear on those ridiculous abduction tapes.
     Earley:   This  goes along with a recent book  review7  that
examined  hypnosis  and questioned if hypnosis  per  se  actually
existed or whether we can, by simply relaxing people, enable them
to  be  in a fully waking state but simply have  more  access  to
their memories.
     Vallee:   Again, I'm not a specialist of that field and  I'm
just  relaying what different professionals have told  me.   They
disagree  among  themselves so I should obviously  qualify  that.
There  are  obviously  some  instances  where  hypnosis  is   the
technique of choice.  There is another case in my files in  which
I  went to a...psychiatrist who is trained in hypnosis.  He  told
me he did not want to do it.  And his reasons showed the reaction
of  a true professional.  He said "I should not be the one  doing
it  for two reasons.  First of all, I do not have  enough  recent
clinical experience with hypnosis.  And second, I know you.  I've
read  your books and you're a friend of mine and I know too  much
about the subject.  We should find somebody who is qualified, who
knows hypnosis, who has an open mind on UFOs but does not have  a
personal framework..."  It is difficult, but such people exist.
     Let  me  mention another case I've worked on  recently,  the
case of a man with a Silicon Valley computer company, who came to
me  because  he remembered seeing some objects over  Hawaii.   He
wanted  to  be  hypnotized because he felt there  had  been  some
action  of  that type (abduction).  I took him to a team  of  two
doctors.  One is not a psychiatrist but an M.D. who uses hypnosis
in  his medical practice and the other one is a psychologist  who
teaches hypnosis to psychologists -- in other words, he is  doing
research  on hypnosis and he teaches it.  I asked them what  kind
of  methodology could be used in abduction cases, how would  they
go  about it.  they said the only way we should do it is  to  use
the  standards of admissibility of hypnosis in court.  The  state
of California has published some very strict guidelines for  when
hypnosis  is  admissible   in the courts of  that  state.   These
guidelines  are  perfect.   They are tailor-made for  us  in  UFO
research.   Hypnosis  is not admissible unless everything  is  on
video tape including the induction phase, so you can see if there
are leading questions, you can check if there is full  disclosure
in the beginning by the hypnotist on what the person is to expect
and so on.  You should also have physiological measurements;  for
example, skin response measurements and pulse measurements.   You
never see this in UFO abduction research.
     In this case, the two doctors set up a number of instruments
that  were  visible  to  the cameras.   There  were  two  cameras
shooting at the same time so you could always see the instruments
as   you  heard  the  answers;  you  could   have   chronological
correlation.   Another  expert  could alter  say,  "that  person,
doctor,  was not hypnotized when he said this.  He was not  in  a
state  of hypnosis."  And different experts could  challenge  the
data  and  argue.  Otherwise what you have is pure  garbage,  you
just have someone saying something on tape.
     In the case of this man, we found that indeed he  remembered
a lot about the incident in Hawaii but that the real incident did
not  happen  in Hawaii.  It was many years before and  there  may
have been an abduction in the south of the United States when  he
was  in  a  car with his parents.  At that  point  he  became  so
agitated  that the two doctors got him out of hypnosis, which  is
precisely  the point where a ufologist would have jumped  up  and
down and said "Oh goody, let's find out what happened!  Did  they
have  big  eyes, were they grey, which planet did they  take  you
to..." and so on.
     But  the  doctors stopped everything and said  "We  are  not
going  to  do anything further until we have a  therapy  contract
with  this  man.   Obviously  this  is  an  extremely   traumatic
experience for him and if we pick it up again we will pick it  up
as  part of a course of therapy."  That is the reaction  of  true
professionals  in  the business, where you have  to  worry  about
possibly  causing harm to the patient, and keeping  your  license
and malpractice and everything else -- all the things  ufologists
treat very lightly.
     Earley:  Have they gone deeper into it?
     Vallee:   We  did not pursue it yet.  It will be up  to  him
[the subject] to decide if he wants to do more.

                       ANIMAL MUTILATIONS

     Earley:   You  wrote  some  introductory  remarks  to  Linda
Moulton Howe's book, An Alien Harvest...
     Vallee:   There  are certain parts of the book I  would  not
condone  or agree with but it is her right to publish it,  and  I
wanted  to  support  her work on mutilations.   I  think  she  is
raising  a  number of important questions the UFO  community  has
been ignoring.
     Earley:  Do you feel that the mutilations are not being done
by a normal human agency?
     Vallee:  Ahhh...let me put it this way.  I made it clear  in
Confrontations  that I was not going to discuss mutilations  even
though they were a possibly relevant subject.  I've done a number
of field studies of mutilation cases on the same level as this in
which  there  was certainly no classic explanation for  what  had
happened  to the animals.  The witnesses had seen objects in  the
sky  at about the same time the mutilations had  happened.   That
doesn't  mean that I can prove a correlation and that's  where  I
stop.  I do have an open mind on that.  Linda is doing some  very
good work in that field.  More people should be looking at it.  I
cannot   tell  you  that  there  is  a  link  between  UFOs   and
mutilations.
     Earley:   Would you be planning to publish your research  at
some point?
     Vallee:  I don't know.  I might.
     Earley:   Thank you very much for your time, Dr. Vallee.   I
am sure FATE readers will be interested in your remarks.

NOTES:

1)   Dr.  Richard  Haines, a retired  senior  scientist  formerly
employed  by  NASA,  is  the author  of  several  books  on  UFOs
including,  Advanced  Aerial Devices Reported During  the  Korean
War; L.S.A. Press; 1990
2)  "Photo Analysis of an Aerial Disc Over Cost Rica" by  Richard
F.  Haines & Jacques Vallee; Journal of  Scientific  Exploration,
Vol. 3, No. 2, 1989.  A response by Haines & Vallee, based on  an
examination  of  the  original negative,  to  referee  questions,
appeared  in Vol. 4, N. 1; 1990 as "Photo Analysis of  an  Aerial
Disc Over Costa Rica:  New Evidence."
3)  Saucer Smear Vol. 37, No. 3, April 30, 1990.
4)  "The Thickets of Magonia" by Jerome Clark; International  UFO
Reporter; Jan.-Feb., 1990.
5)  First Contact. ed. by Ben Bova & Byron Preiss; NAL; 1990.
6)  Encounters by Edith Fiore, Ph.D.; Doubleday; 1989.
7)   "Demystifying Hypnosis" in the Skeptical Inquirer, Vol.  14,
No.  3/Spring  1990.   the book under review  is  Hypnosis:   The
Cognitive-Behavioral  Perspective edited by Nicholas P. Spanos  &
John  F. Chaves; Prometheus Books; 1989.  Also see They  Call  It
Hypnosis  by Robert A. Baker; Prometheus Books; 1990; pages  237-
250, "Hypnosis and Alien Abductions."

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TITLE: INFO: CHINA REPORTS MASS UFO SIGHTING

+From         : [e-mail] (Don Allen)
+Subject      : INFO: CHINA REPORTS MASS UFO SIGHTING

This information is presented for your persusal and is a continuation
of my policy of informing the public what is currently available. As
usual my *disclaimer* is simply to present the data and let you form
your own opinion(s). Please feel free to agree,disagree,discuss or
ponder :-)

As I do not have a great amount of time available to pursue follow-ups
exclusively, comments to me should be directed via mail.

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           MUFONET-BBS NETWORK  -  MUTUAL UFO NETWORK
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=START=   XMT: 05:22 Wed May 22  EXP: 05:00 Thu May 23

CHINA REPORTS MASS UFO SIGHTING

BEIJING (MAY 22) UPI - Thousands of people attending an
official celebration in the southwest province of Sichuan
spotted a UFO ''slowly spinning'' through the night sky, a
Chinese report said Wednesday.

The sighting occurred around midnight May 17 over the
Tibetan district of western Xiangcheng county following a
heavy rain, according to the semi-official China News
Service.

The UFO was sighted by a large crowd attending a night rally
held to mark the 55th anniversary of the communist Red
Army's passage through the region during the 1934-5 Long
March, the report said.

''Thousands of people witnessed the UFO shining and moving
forward in spirals for 11 minutes,'' the report said.

The unidentified object was described as ''slowly spinning,
flying from northwest to northeast.''

Xiangcheng county borders Tibet and southwest Yunnan
province.

The crew of a state-run commercial aircraft also reported
spotting a UFO over south Sichuan on the same evening, 335
miles west of the mass sighting, according to the report.

''The time when Xiangcheng county in west Sichuan discovered
the UFO on the evening of the 17th was very close to the
time when the Southwest Aviation Company discovered a UFO in
the air over Xuyong in south Sichuan,'' China News Service
said.

There was no explanation for the dual sightings. The
dispatch cited an unidentified report as saying that a third
UFO had been spotted over nearby Yunnan at midnight May 17,
but gave no details.

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TITLE: INFO: Lunar Transient Phenomena - Paranet File

+From         : [e-mail] (Don Allen)
+Subject      : INFO: Lunar Transient Phenomena - Paranet File

The following text comes from the ParaNet UFO echo. I'm posting
it to the NET as it seems to be interesting. NOTE to cross-posted
groups..BEFORE you flame me, how about keeping an OPEN MIND?

As I do NOT have alot of time available to pursue follow-ups
_exclusively_ , please direct all comments to me via mail.

The usual hate mail will get merrily dumped to dev/null, so flame
away if you must :-)

NOTE: This article re-printed without the express written consent
or permission of Paranet.

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Message #6490 - INFO.PARANET
   Date : 29-May-91 17:00
   From : ParaNet(sm) Information Service
     To : All
Subject : Lunar Transient Phenomena

ParaNet(sm):  Freedom of Information for a better world!

(C) 1991 ParaNet(sm) Information Service.  All Rights Reserved.
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     With  all of the speculation about alien bases on  the  moon
and  strange  phenomena  being seen occurring  around  the  moon,
ParaNet did some research on this and found some very interesting
artilces  pertaining to this phenomena known as  Lunar  Transient
Phenomena.  Although it is far from being proof that aliens  have
set  up bases on the moon, it does provide for  some  interesting
reading.   During our search, we found a NASA publication  titled
"Chronological  Catalog  of  Reported  Lunar  Events."   This  is
contained  in  NASA Technical Report R-277,  published  in  July,
1968.   This  document details Lunar Transient  Phenomena  dating
back to 1540.  We will provide this document in another file, but
for  now,  we  did find an article that  details  the  scientific
communities concern now over this strange phenomena.
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Reprinted from Sky & Telescope Magazine, March, 1991.

                    LUNAR TRANSIENT PHENOMENA

by  Winifred  Sawtell Cameron, La Ranchita de la Luna,  200  Rojo
Drive, Sedona, Arizona

     On  January 24, 1956 amateur lunar observer R. Houghton  was
drawing  the  crater  Liebig on the edge  of  Mare  Humorum  when
something  bright flashed in the field of his  7-inch  telescope.
The  flare came from the nearby crater Cavendish, which was  just
emerging from the lunar night. Closer inspection revealed that  a
peak on the crater's eastern wall was repeatedly flashing.
     Houghton called astronomer Brian Warner and told him what to
look  for.  Warner  too  saw the  flashes  and  called  them  "so
conspicuous that they were seen immediately." The other peaks  in
the vicinity remained normal.
     On  the  night  of November  2-3,  1958,  Soviet  astronomer
Nikolai  A. Kozyrev witnessed a strange phenomenon  while  making
spectrograms   of   the  crater  Alphonsus   with   the   Crimean
Astrophysical  Observatory's  50-inch reflector.  As  he  watched
through  the  telescope's guiding eyepiece, he saw  the  crater's
central  peak  blur  and  turn  an  unusual  reddish  color.  The
spectrograms  confirmed  his  visual impressions  of  a  volcanic
event;  they  showed an emission spectrum of carbon  vapor  (S&T:
February, 1959, page 184).
     On  July  19, 1969, the Apollo 11 command  module  had  just
achieved orbit around the Moon when the Mission Control Center in
Houston,  Texas, received word that amateur astronomers  reported
transient  phenomena in the vicinity of the  crater  Aristarchus.
Asked to check out the situation, astronaut Neil Armstrong looked
out  his window toward the earthlit region and observed an  "area
that is considerably more illuminated than the surrounding  area.
It  just has -- seems to have a slight amount of fluorescence  to
it."  Although he wasn't sure, Armstrong believed the region  was
Aristarchus.
     Accounts  of lunar transient phenomena (LTP'S) are not  new.
Over  the  past  30  years,  I  have  collected  close  to  2,000
observations dating from as far back as 557 A.D. Most are  visual
reports  of bright spots, flashes, hazes, and  curious  temporary
colorations  of  the  lunar soil.  Reputable  observers  such  as
William  Herschel,  Wilhelm Struve, and E. E. Barnard  have  seen
them. Some LTP's have even been photographed, as well as recorded
polarimetrically,  photometrically, and  spectroscopically.  Yet,
despite  a profusion of observations and six Apollo  missions  to
the Moon, the nature of LTP's remains elusive and their origin an
enigma.
     About   200  of  some  30,000  lunar  features  visible   in
telescopes  have  been recorded as LTP sources. Half  have  shown
activity  only  once.  Of the remainder, a  mere  dozen  features
contribute  three-fourths of all reports. One area,  Aristarchus-
Herodotus-Schroters Valley, is responsible for fully one-third of
the total number sighted.
     Most LTP activity occurs along the edges of the maria,  near
volcanic  features, like domes, sinuous rilles, and craters  with
dark  halos  or floors. But these regions, like the rest  of  the
Moon, have long been considered geologically dead. Circular maria
are  large, primordial impact basins that were filled  with  lava
about  3  billion  years ago. There is  evidence,  however,  that
volcanism  has occurred in some craters that are perhaps  only  a
million  years old. Could the bright flashes, hazes,  and  colors
reported at these sites be proof that the Moon is still active?

                 THOUGHTS ON THE ORIGIN OF LTP'S

     Possible explanations for LTP's are not lacking. One of  the
earliest  proposals  was made by Jack Green of  Douglas  Advanced
Research  Laboratories  in Huntington  Beach,  California.  While
studying  the standing levels of water and oil in deep wells,  he
found  that  the  levels  varied  in  concert  with  the   Moon's
anomalistic  month (27.55 days, from perigee to perigee),  as  if
the  strength of the Moon's tidal force affected the tiny  cracks
in  the bedrock through which oil and water move. Based  on  this
idea,  he  suggested that LTP's are degassing  phenomena  brought
about  by  the  Earth's  tidal  effects  on  the  Moon.   Maximum
degassing, he believed, would occur at the Moon's most  eccentric
apogees  and  a minimum at the least  eccentric  perigees.  After
analyzing  1,200 observations, however, I could not find  such  a
relationship.


     Some  LTP  phenomena may be caused by  sunlight  interacting
with  the  lunar soil. On October 30, 1963, James  Greenacre  and
Edward Barr observed red spots sparkling on the southwest wall of
the crater Aristarchus, the east wall of Schroter's Valley, and a
hill between them (S&T: December, 1963, page 316). The  phenomena
was observed visually by others and recorded spectroscopically as
well.  At the same lunar phase a month later, Greenacre and  Barr
saw a similar event. Since sunrise on these features occurs  when
the  Moon  is about 11 days old, Greenacre thought that  the  low
lunar Sun was somehow responsible. Indeed, thermoluminesence  mat
be  the cause. Gases in the lunar soil, frozen during the  night,
could heat up and escape near sunrise.
     Could  high-energy solar particles impacting the  Moon  also
trigger LTP activity? Shortly after a large flare erupted on  the
Sun  in  1963,  Zdenek Kopal and Thomas Rackham at  Pic  du  Midi
Observatory  in southern France photographed a local  brightening
around  the  craters Copernicus, Kepler, and  Aristarchus.  Kopal
proposed  that  energetic particles from the flare  caused  lunar
rocks to fluorescence. Such activity might be expected especially
at   full  phase  when  the  Moon  passes  through  the   Earth's
magnetosphere, where solar wind particles become trapped.

                            ANALYSIS

     LTP  sightings  fall  into  five  categories:  brightenings,
darkenings,   reddish   colorations,  bluish   colorations,   and
obscurations.  When plotted against the lunar anomalistic  month,
the  data show that LTP activity peaks somewhat when the Moon  is
moving  from apogee to perigee, especially about halfway  between
these points when the Moon is approaching Earth the most rapidly.
When  the Moon is opposite that point in its orbit, LTP  activity
is  at  a deep minimum.  Since tidal stressed  build  from  lunar
apogee to perigee, one might expect such a pattern.
     When LTP phenomena are plotted against the Moon's phases, it
appears  that  the most phenomena occur around the time  of  full
Moon  (though  LTP's  have been  observed  throughout  the  lunar
cycle).   Also,  more  are seen near the sunrise  line  than  the
sunset line, though that might be simply because far more  people
observe the waxing Moon in the evening than the waning Moon after
midnight.  Gaseous phenomena and anomalistic brightenings seem to
peak when the Moon is a waxing crescent.

                         ARE THEY REAL?

     Some  astronomers dismiss all LTP's as  either  aberrational
effects   in  Earth's  atmosphere,  changes  in  lunar   lighting
conditions,  or  outright illusions.  Such  skepticism,  however,
flies  in  the  face  of  those  who  have  devoted  decades   to
familiarizing  themselves with the Moon, and who very  well  know
these  common  observational  effects.  *   LTP's  are  localized
phenomena.   They are regions or features that experience  change
while the rest of the Moon remains normal.
     No  doubt  some  apparent LTP's are  caused  by  atmospheric
effects.   One is the "ashen glow."  Here, sunlight scattered  by
Earth's  clouds is cast onto the Moon's night surface,  resulting
in   LTP's   that  simply  reflect  changes  in  the   level   of
illumination.    Another  pseudo-LTP  concerns  bright   features
fringed  with  blue  (north) and red (south)  seen  against  dark
backgrounds.   These  probably are aberrational  effects,  namely
atmospheric  dispersion near the observer, perhaps enhanced by  a
lingering temperature inversion.
     Sightings  of  a  starlike point on the  Moon  may  also  be
disregarded  as an LTP.  This is the only transient phenomenon  I
have  ever  observed  myself.   But I  suspect  it  is  merely  a
reflection  effect  from  flat facets on  areas  of  large  rocky
outcrops  when  the  Sun and observer are  at  just  the  correct
angles.   (High  magnifications  spread the light  into  an  area
instead of a point.)
     Even if we eliminate the three types of non-LTP's  discussed
here,  that  still  leaves more than 40 percent  of  the  reports
unexplained.
     There  is  evidence that the remaining LTP's  are  of  lunar
origin.   a  substantial number of sightings  were  independently
confirmed.   Professional astronomers have recorded them on  film
and  spectrograms, as well as with photoelectric photometers  and
polarization  equipment.   Experiments  on  the  Apollo  missions
detected  trace outgassings of the radioactive elements radon  an
polonium,  suggesting that more substantial amounts  of  commoner
substances  were  released  at the  same  time.   One  experiment
possibly  detected  water vapor during the largest  moonquake  on
record  (Richter 4).  the epicenter of that quake was near or  in
the large, fractured crater Gauss north of Mare Crisium.  To  me,
this  is  the  one lunar feature that looks as  if  it  had  been
covered  with a thin crust of glass subsequently shattered by  an
impact.
     While  in  lunar  orbit,  Harrison  Schmitt  of  Apollo   17
witnessed  a  flash  near the crater  Grimaldi  west  of  Oceanus
Procellarum.   Since he was dark adapted, it's possible he saw  a
cosmic-ray flash within his own eyeball.  But it's also  possible
he saw a lunar event.  In the past, Grimaldi had been responsible
for more than a dozen reports of flashes.  The crater Plato  near
Mare Imbrium is another source of flashes.  Although many craters
responsible  for  LTP sightings have central  peaks  with  summit
craters, Plato has none.
     So the Moon may not be such a cold, lifeless neighbor  after
all.  It still breathes through the action of LTP's, which in  my
opinion  are  probably gentle outgassings  of  less-than-volcanic
proportions.   Whatever they are, thanks to the LTP's,  the  Moon
remains a curious place.


--The author directs the lunar transient phenomena section of the
Association of Lunar and Planetary Observers.

                  SOME POSSIBLE CAUSES OF LTP's

--The  following  is  a  condensation of  remarks  by  J.  Hedley
Robinson   in  the  December,  1986,  Journal  of   the   British
Astronomical Association.

     At  least  11 possible causes of lunar  transient  phenomena
(LTP's)   have  been  discussed.   As  a  stimulus   to   further
discussion, it may be helpful to summarize and comment on these.

     1.  Tidal.  There is a greater stress by the Earth when  the
Moon  is at perigee than at other parts of its orbit.  The  tidal
pull  may release strains in the crust and permit the release  of
trapped  gases.   The tidal effect of Earth on the Moon  is  32.5
times greater than the effect of the Moon on the Earth.

     2.    Albedo  changes  due  to  dust  movement.   There   is
essentially no atmosphere on the Moon to raise dust, so this does
not seem likely as an explanation.

     3.   Thermal  shock.  The lunar surface  temperature  varies
from 125 degrees to -80 degrees Celsius during a two-hour  period
at  both  sunrise and sunset, and most LTP's occur  within  three
days  of local sunrise or sunset.  LTP's could be related to  the
fact  that dissimilar materials expand and contract at  differing
rates.  Although the maria heat and cool more rapidly than  other
parts  of the Moon's surface, at a depth of just 10 cm  the  rock
temperature  is constant.  Thermal conditions may be regarded  as
incidental to LTP's rather than the main cause.

     4.  Magnetic.  Solar plasma bombards the lunar surface, even
when  the Moon is in the Earth's magnetic tail, and the  movement
of  the  Moon in and out of the magnetic tail changes  the  field
strength.   But charged particles penetrate the lunar surface  to
only  one-third the depth reached by the Sun's thermal rays.   If
thermal  shock  is  considered to be insufficient  to  cause  LTP
phenomena, then the much weaker electromagnetic effect below  the
surface must also be discounted.

     5.    Ultraviolet  radiation  from  the  Sun   might   cause
fluorescence  at visible wavelengths, because there is  virtually
no  atmosphere  to shield the lunar surface.  I  doubt  that  the
effect  is strong enough to produce visible reactions as  bright,
or as large, as the usual LTP's.

     6.  Solar-wind plasma impacting the surface could produce an
electric discharge, but I doubt that the energy involved is great
enough to cause an effect visible from Earth.
     LTP's  could,  however,  be  caused  by  the  explosion   of
chemically reactive molecules and free radicals in small hollows;
and  solar  wind plasma may produce such  reactive  molecules  in
rocks.  But solar-wind plasma hardly looks like a prime cause.

     7.    Spectral   diffraction   from   surface   grains    or
irregularities  too  small for telescopic  resolution  may  cause
color.   The lunar surface presents many angels to the  observer,
and  these vary with libration in both latitude and longitude  as
well  as with diurnal libration.  With the varying lunar  surface
slopes, many simultaneous diffraction angles should be presented.
But if this were the cause of LTP's, the effects should show  all
over the disk from time to time, whereas they in fact show  local
preferences.

     8.   Meteor  strikes.  These have been  claimed  frequently.
One  of  the  best  observed  was  reported  by  the  Smithsonian
Institution  near  the  Apollo 14 site on May 13,  1972,  when  a
meteor  impact released an energy equal to that of 1,000 tons  of
TNT.   But  meteor strikes cover only a small area on  the  lunar
surface when compared to the size of LTP's.

     9.   Moonquakes are often deep seated but very weak, with  a
preference for times of perigee or apogee.  There seems to be  no
obvious  connection  between  the  frequency  of  moonquakes  and
sightings of LTP phenomena.

     10.   False color is a regular feature in larger  telescopes
due  to terrestrial atmospheric conditions.  This can be  guarded
against by comparing a suspected LTP event with the appearance of
other  formations on the lunar surface at the same time,  and  is
well recognized by practiced observers.

     11.   The piezoelectric effect is well known on  Earth,  for
example  when rock strain generates a strong electric field  that
ionizes the air above the rock, causing a glow.  The field  moves
with  the  strain  source.  There are  Soviet  reports  that  the
magnetic  field  drops  suddenly  when  underground  tension   is
released.

     Conclusion.   The  foregoing  indicates  courses  that   our
thinking  and  research might follow.  I am of the  opinion  that
tidal strain or thermal shock causing outgassing and producing  a
piezoelectric effect might be the most plausible explanation.

J. Hedley Robinson
Helmington, 21 Inverteign Dr.
Teignmouth, Devon TQ14 9AF
England

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TITLE: INFO: Review of MUFON book on MJ-12

+From         : [e-mail] (Don Allen)
+Subject      : INFO: Review of MUFON book on MJ-12


This information is presented for your persusal and is a continuation
of my policy of informing the public what is currently available. As
usual my *disclaimer* is simply to present the data and let you form
your own opinion(s). Please feel free to agree,disagree,discuss or
ponder :-)

As I do not have a great amount of time available to pursue follow-ups
exclusively, comments to me should be directed via mail.

The following article comes off the ParaNet UFO echo.

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Message #6038 - INFO.PARANET
   Date : 27-May-91 12:28
   From : ncar!PSUVM.PSU.EDU!CCB104
     To : All
Subject : Here's an Item for Inclusion in Info-Paranet Newsletters . . .

From: ncar!PSUVM.PSU.EDU![e-mail]
Date: 27 May 91 01:35:27 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: info.paranet

From: [e-mail]

Mr. T. Scott Crain, Jr., published author and MUFON State Director for
Pennsylvania, has asked me to submit this note for Info-Paranet Newsletter
readers concerning his new book that was published by MUFON. (I understand
that this is also the *first* book proper to be published by MUFON.) This
article is *slightly* edited (punctuation, spelling, etc.) for increased
readability, but otherwise it is a faithful rendering of the materials with
which I was provided for transmission.

'This article originally appeared in the April 1991 issue of the *MUFON
UFO Journal*, No. 276, (c) Copyright 1991 by the Mutual UFO Network, 103
Oldtowne Rd., Seguin, Texas 78155-4099.'

It appears here by permission of MUFON for circulation in Info-Paranet
Newsletters. (The author is T. Scott Crain, Jr.)

-------------<<<Article begins here>>>-------------

The Book on MJ-12

     Nothing in the past few years has caused more controversy in the UFO
field than the release of the Operation Majestic-12 Briefing Document in
1987. The document, dated September 18, 1952, states that on September
24, 1947, President Harry S Truman established a secret panel of twelve
distinguished scientists, military [officials], and intelligence
officials to oversee and study crashed UFOs and their occupants.
Majestic's first case [had] occurred two months earlier, when the team
allegedly recovered a crashed disc on July 7 near Roswell, New Mexico.
Although the Roswell crash is well-documented in UFO literature, is what
is described in the MJ-12 document itself an accurate portrayal of the
recovery?

For four years UFO researchers have been debating whether the MJ-12
document is authentic and whether or not the content of the document
represents reality.

Shortly after the MJ-12 document was released, Manitoba UFO
researcher Grant Cameron and I began looking for former scientists who
may have had knowledge of the MJ-12 committee. We worked under the
assumption that the document was accurate in its description of a
special group to handle UFO recoveries for the government. If MJ-12 was
real, someone working in the upper levels of the government would surely
remember a committee by that name that was active in the late 1940s and
early 1950s.

Confirming MJ-12 has been difficult. All the original, designated
MJ-12 members are dead. Although various alleged government documents
have been uncovered alluding to the MJ-12 committee, the U.S. Government
has not publicly acknowledged that these documents or, for that matter,
the MJ-12 documents, are genuine.

An interesting development occurred in November 1983, when UFO
researcher William Steinman received a letter back from American
physicist Dr. Robert I. Sarbacher regarding UFO recoveries. In the early
1950s, Sarbacher was working as a consultant for the military's Research
and Development Board, the same Board that allegedly controlled
Operation Majestic-12, according to the MJ-12 documents. In his letter
to Steinman, Sarbacher reported that secret meetings about UFO
recoveries were held but [that] he did not personally attend them.
Gordon Creighton wrote in the October 1985 issue of the *Flying Saucer
Review*, published in England, that Dr. Sarbacher stated [that] these
meetings were held at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio.
Apparently those involved in the recoveries were to report their
findings to scientists connected with the Research & Development Board.

Sarbacher wrote [to] Steinman that he did talk to some of the people at
the office about what was learned. According to Sarbacher, U.S.
laboratories analyzed UFO hardware from the crashes and ... the pilots
looked like certain insects observed on earth.

During a telephone interview with UFO researcher Stanton Friedman,
Sarbacher was asked if he could recall anyone who did attend the
meetings. Sarbacher gave enough clues to Friedman about a scientist he
remembered being there that when Steinman cross-checked the information,
the description fit the profile for Dr. Eric A. Walker, the former
President of Penn State University. Steinman said [that] he called
Sarbacher to confirm his suspicions and [that] Sarbacher allegedly
confirmed that Dr. Eric Walker, who was then Executive Secretary of the
Research & Development Board, attended all the UFO meetings.

When Cameron and I discovered [that] Dr. Walker might be involved, we set
out to document what he may have learned from those meetings and what the
Canadian and American governments were doing with this new-found
knowledge.

Although our investigation started in 1987, William Steinman had been
familiar with Walker's potential involvement since 1984. After several
... [unproductive] attempts to correspond with Walker by mail, Steinman
phoned him on August 30, 1987. During the conversation, Steinman said
that Walker indicated [that] he had known about MJ-12 since 1947 and
that Steinman '... was delving into an area that you can do absolutely
nothing about,' and to '... drop it."

Cameron and I pursued the Walker connection for a book we were working
on entitled *UFOs, MJ-12, and the Government* [subtitle: *A Report on
Government Involvement in UFO Crash Retrievals*] up until 1991. Walker
was contacted by various UFO researchers from 1987-1990, and we were
privy to the notes of these conversations in which Walker made some very
candid remarks about MJ-12 and UFO crashes. In a conversation in 1990,
Walker described MJ-12 as a '... handful of elite' and [that] he would
know if you were invited into the group.

Besides the in-depth reporting on Walker, we investigated several other
scientists who may have been involved, including Dr. Luis W. Alvarez, a
Nobel Prize winner, who allegedly assisted in the recovery of a saucer in
Mexico. We corresponded frequently with news commentator George Knapp of
KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, Nevada, to get the story behind physicist Robert
Lazar, who claims the government has at least nine flying saucers
they're test flying and taking apart out at Nellis Air Force Base, in
Nevada. We looked at the experiences noted UFO researchers have had in
dealing with the government, including those of Bill Moore, Linda Howe,
Wilbert Smith, Lee Graham and Donald Keyhoe. We also looked at putative
government agents who appear to be involved, including Richard Doty and
several who go by the names 'Falcon' and "Condor."

We examined several UFO crashes that the government appears to have been
involved in, including those in Roswell, New Mexico; Kecksburg,
Pennsylvania; and the Kalahari Desert in South Africa. MUFON's State
Director Stan Gordon opened up his files to us on the 1965 Kecksburg UFO
crash. New evidence released in December 1990 indicated that the
acorn-shaped object [recovered] was eventually moved to Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base. We corresponded with Michael Hesemann in Germany and
Henry Azadehdel in England to uncover the facts behind the alleged 1989
incident over South Africa, where a UFO was supposedly shot down by a
South African Air Force pilot.

Finally, we explored the possibility that perhaps what might have been
learned from UFO crashes in the late 1940s/early 1950s may have been
instrumental in helping the U.S. Government develop certain technologies
that are now being used on the advanced aircraft being secretly test
flown in the 'Dreamland' area of Nellis Air Force Base. The evidence we
have gathered seems to indicate [that] the government developed teams to
retrieve unknown aerial objects, that they analyzed the recovered UFO
hardware, and [that] they are now attempting to duplicate that technology
on today's aircraft.

Our book presents an interesting mix of various government documents,
letters, telephone notes, and photographs detailing how the government is
misleading the public about the true nature of UFOs.

* Grant Cameron and Scott Crain's new book *UFOs, MJ-12, and the
* Government---A Report on Government Involvement in UFO Crash
* Retrievals* is being published by the Mutual UFO Network and will be
* available May 1, 1991. The 218-page, 8.5x11 paperback book is heavily
* illustrated with documents, correspondence and photographs. The price
* for this revealing book is $18.45 plus $1.50 for postage and handling,
* totaling $19.95. Orders are now being taken by MUFON in Seguin, TX.
* [ADDR: Mutual UFO Network, 103 Oldtowne Rd., Seguin, TX 78155-4099 USA]
* Make checks or money orders payable to MUFON in the U.S.A. All foreign
* purchases must be by International Postal Money Order, checks made
* payable to a U.S. Bank with electronic route coding across the bottom
* of the check, or by cash in U.S. dollars.

-------------<<<Article ends here>>>-------------

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ufo/aliens #173, from Cix_UseNet, 8685 chars, May 31 02:47 91
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TITLE: INFO: Alien Fetus Recovered??

+From         : [e-mail] (Don Allen)
+Subject      : INFO: Alien Fetus Recovered??


This information is presented for your persusal and is a continuation
of my policy of informing the public what is currently available. As
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your own opinion(s). Please feel free to agree,disagree,discuss or
ponder :-)

As I do not have a great amount of time available to pursue follow-ups
exclusively, comments to me should be directed via mail.

The following article comes off the ParaNet UFO echo.

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     ParaNet  received a clipping from Lorne Goldfader,  director
of the Vancouver-based UFO Research Institute of Canada (UFORIC).
It  details  an  investigation  by  Goldfader  into  an   alleged
recovered fetus that was miscarried by a British Columbian  woman
who  claimed that she was impregnated during an abduction  event.
Goldfader has disclosed to ParaNet that at this time the specimen
is  in  a pathology lab being tested and that  results  of  these
tests  will  be  forthcoming soon. At this time,  there  is  very
little  information  to substantiate that  anything  unusual  has
happened.   According to the victim, the pregnancy is unusual  as
she claims she is celibate. Although this is not a good case  for
an  unexplained  pregnancy  at  the  hands  of  aliens,  we  have
reprinted  the article for informational purposes.  ParaNet  will
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                  SEX, SURGERY AND SPACE ALIENS

       Extra-terrestrials seem to prefer British Columbia

Reprinted  from an article appearing in The Weekly  Newsmagazine,
British Columbian Report, May 27, 1991, Volume 2 Number 39.

     Last  week researcher Chris Rutkowski, of Winnipeg  revealed
that  British  Columbians  reported 114, or 49% of  the  232  UFO
sightings   in  Canada  in  1990.   For  some  the   survey   was
confirmation of a long-held belief that B.C. is home to more than
its  share  of those on the lunatic fringe.  But  for  those  who
claim to have encountered beings from outer space, the survey was
a  confidence-builder.  They could take comfort in the  knowledge
that  more and more of their neighbours[sic] are willing to  risk
being classified as crazies[sic], by speaking of encounters  with
extra-terrestrials.
     Alvena  Scott, a 41-year old Vancouver receptionist, is  one
of those finding security in numbers.  Miss Scott claims she  has
been  about as close as anyone can get to a space alien.   Indeed
she is one of about 20 people in the Vancouver area who say  they
have been abducted by extra-terrestrial.  Apparently some of  the
aliens  were  nice enough to operate on her to  repair  a  faulty
kidney.    Others,   however,  were  only   interested   in   her
reproductive capacity.  She says the latter group impregnated her
during  a March 1990 abduction.  Three months later, despite  the
fact  she  had  been  celibate  for  years,  she  experienced   a
miscarriage.
     Miss  Scott  says  that  in  the  summer  of  1985  she  was
experiencing  excruciating pain in the area of her  left  kidney.
Doctors  told  her the kidney would have to be  removed  but  she
feared  surgery  and  would not consent  to  an  operation.   She
explains  that during this period she began  nightly  meditations
and  it  was  after one of these sessions that  the  first  alien
showed  up in her bedroom.  The next thing she knew she was in  a
circular  room surrounded by seven-foot-tall,  blue-eyed,  human-
like  creatures.  She awoke in her bed the next morning  to  find
blood on her sheets and on her torso.  But her kidney problem was
gone.
     Miss Scott says that five years after her encounter with the
beneficent, tall, blue-eyed beings she had a bad experience  with
some small, insect-featured extra-terrestrials.  She claims  that
in  March of 1990 she was "forcibly taken" in the middle  of  the
night  to  a  spaceship.  Apart from going through  a  series  of
tunnels she remembers nothing of the journey to the spaceship but
she has vivid recollections of her experiences aboard the aliens'
craft.  She was one of about 20 "earth people," of both sexes, on
the  ship.  After communicating with the aliens by telepathy  she
learned  the earth women would have sperm "injected  into  them."
She  received  sperm but was not told who or  what  provided  it.
Three months later she had a miscarriage.
     A  tissue  sample from the miscarriage  has  allegedly  been
given  Lorne  Goldfader,  director  of  the  Vancouver-based  UFO
Research Institute of Canada (UFORIC).  Mr. Goldfader says  other
UFO   researchers   have  had  evidence  of   UFOs   mysteriously
disappearing.   To reduce the risk of theft he's  not  disclosing
where  the  tissue is being stored.   The  41-year-old  Vancouver
postal  worker  says the sample, which "appears to be  the  first
stage of a foetus[sic]," will be examined by a pathologist in due
course.   However, as of last week, despite a  year-long  search,
Mr.  Goldfader had been unable to find a lab willing  to  perform
the analysis.
     Another UFO researcher, Graham Conway from Delta, says  that
based on his knowledge of the case and the phenomenon, the sample
tissue "does indeed look to be what he (Mr. Goldfader) claims  it
is."   Mr.  Conway,  64, described the material  as  a  tiny  but
"perfectly  human  (-looking) foetus[sic] with a  tiny  umbilical
chord[sic] attached to it."  The former high school teacher  says
he  has no doubts about Miss Scott's "sincerity" in  the  matter.
And  after 44 years in the (UFO research) field, he  thinks  this
might well be the long-awaited breakthrough in abduction research.
     His  experience  in  the field leads  him  to  believe  that
accounts  like those of Miss Scott are becoming too  numerous  to
ignore.   "If it's a figment of the imagination, it is  happening
to a lot of imaginations.  I believe that there's inference  with
birth."
     In another case he investigated, a B.C. woman reported being
taken  aboard a spacecraft and introduced to a boy she  was  told
was  her son.  He says most of the women who report such  genetic
tampering are in the 35-40 age group.  He adds that a significant
number  of  "abducted" women have been sexually abused  in  their
earth lives.
     For  her part Miss Scott says the alien encounters not  only
cured  her kidney problems but also gave her a whole new  outlook
on life and made her "a much more spiritual person."  Still,  she
confesses  that  there  has been  a  negative  side-effect.   "My
relatives think I'm nuts."  -- Barbara Tandory

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[THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE IS FROM "THE NEW DAWN", VOL. 1, NO. 2, JUNE
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BUSH'S SON LINKED TO NUGAN HAND BANK

George Bush's eldest son, George W., is involved in a business
deal in the Persian Gulf with one William H. Quasha, a Manila
attorney who represented the Philippines branch of the Nugan Hand
Bank. Nugan Hand is the notorious CIA proprietary that collapsed
in 1980 amid charges that it was deeply involved in laundering
drug money. In 1977, it was revealed that Nugan Hand was part of a
network that had exported billions of dollars' worth of heroin
from Bangkok prior to June 1976. (George Bush, senior, took over
as head of the CIA in January 1976).

According to published accounts, Quasha tried to obstruct
investigations into Nugan Hand's illegal operations, advising Gen.
LeRoy Manor, Nugan Hand's representative in the Philippines, to
flee the country to avoid official investigators. Quasha and his
son, New York attorney Alan G. Quasha, are among the principal
owners of Harken Energy Corp., a Texas-based oil company that took
over George W. Bush's failing oil company, Spectrum 7, in 1986.
The younger Bush has served on Harken's board of directors since
then. In January 1990, Harken received exclusive exploration and
drilling rights to all of Bahrain's off-shore territories, a deal
which Charles Strain, a Houston-based energy analyst, told Forbes
magazine was "an incredible deal, unbelievable for this small
company."